context type MTP requested but model doesn't contain MTP layers

#47
by Manhandle6292 - opened

2.39.009.670 I common_speculative_init_result: creating MTP draft context against the target model 'Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-UD-Q4_K_XL-00001-of-00004.gguf'

2.39.009.677 W llama_init_from_model: context type MTP requested but model doesn't contain MTP layers

same issue here, I am testing with allegedly? build-in DFlash instead : --spec-type draft-dflash . But cant confirm it works at all for now.

Yes, they intentionally removed MTP on these GGUFs. Not sure why, but I saw there are still some bugs with MTP support on this model, so that's probably the reason. If you want it now, there are some GGUF drafters out there that you can download and add manually.

Looks like they just added them a few hours ago.

Yesterday I was able to get MTP working.
hf download hf://unsloth/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GGUF/MTP/mtp-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-shared-Q8_0.gguf
(here are some llama.cpp switches)
app-b10715-mix-86bd2d3-windows-x64-cuda13-portable\llama-server.exe --ctx-size 262144 -hf unsloth/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GGUF:Q8_0 --temp 1.0 --top-p 0.95 --top-k 20 --min-p 0.0 --presence-penalty 0.0 --repeat-penalty 1.0 --reasoning on -np 1 --cache-type-k q8_0 --cache-type-v q8_0 --fit on --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 3 -md %userprofile%.cache\huggingface\hub\models--unsloth--Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GGUF\snapshots\38bb39ee97821de2c9009abb7e93950eec396e66\MTP\mtp-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-shared-Q8_0.gguf

I tried using --hf-repo-draft instead of the specific downloaded model, but was unable to specify anything that would work.
With -lv 4 specified I do see these two error lines during the loading process:
E llama_model_load: error loading model: borrow_shared_tensor: this model is a draft head without its own 'token_embd.weight'; load it as a draft of its target model, not on its own
E llama_model_load_from_file_impl: failed to load model
but otherwise it loads correctly and seems to benefit from the speculative decoding.

Using MTP with Q8 has taken me from ~40-49 token/s without MTP to ~55-75 token/s on my hardware setup.

it seems like --fit on is doing a fair amount of heavy lifting. when I change to --fit off it fails to load.

Same error messages as @Navigate2053 with my Strix Halo on Ubuntu 26.04, Vulkan or ROCm.

@LaurentPayot
I switched back to this model today. In order to get going I had to
hf download hf://unsloth/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GGUF/MTP/mtp-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-shared-Q8_0.gguf

app-b10909-mix-bea84f7-windows-x64-cuda13-portable\llama-server.exe [...] -hf unsloth/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GGUF:Q8_0 --temp 1.0 --top-p 0.95 --top-k 20 --min-p 0.0 --presence-penalty 0.0 --repeat-penalty 1.0 --reasoning on -lv 4 --seed 7407 -np 1 --cache-type-k q8_0 --cache-type-v q8_0 --fit on --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 5 -md %userprofile%.cache\huggingface\hub\models--unsloth--Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GGUF\MTP\mtp-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-shared-Q8_0.gguf

I haven't really settled on a a specific --spec-draft-n-max value yet...
I was unable to use -hfd to specify the repo for the mtp gguf

with the extra logging i do get these errors but it continues loading anyway and appears to be working just fine....

E llama_model_load: error loading model: borrow_shared_tensor: this model is a draft head without its own 'token_embd.weight'; load it as a draft of its target model, not on its own
E llama_model_load_from_file_impl: failed to load model
W operator (): failed to measure the memory of the extra model, fitting without it: failed to load model

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