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title: SDXL as a requirements inventory
summary: >-
  Every layer SDXL issues, the op it becomes on this machine, whether that op
  exists, and the kernels the gaps need β€” now with the gaps closed, and with the
  conversion cost measured in CYCLES rather than in host round trips.
tags:
  - kohakutpu
  - compiler
  - kernels
  - memory

SDXL as a requirements inventory

Kind: Yours throughout. Which layers a workload issues, which op each becomes and which kernels close the gaps are this project's inventory against its own instruction set. A second accelerator would produce a different table from the same framework.

This page is not a plan to run SDXL. SDXL is used here as the probe: it is a modern network with convolution, two kinds of attention, three kinds of normalisation, gating, resampling and a decoder, so enumerating what it issues enumerates what this machine is missing. The output is the inventory and the kernel designs, not a demo.

Every number is labelled:

tag meaning
MEASURED run on the unit models in this repository, on the date of this page. No figure here came off the card.
SOURCE read out of a file, either ours or a reference implementation under .ref/
ARITHMETIC derived from MEASURED or SOURCE figures; the derivation is shown

Nothing on this page has been run on silicon. Where a claim depends on the card, it says so and says what would settle it.


1. What SDXL is, module by module

SOURCE for the UNet: .ref/sd-scripts/library/sdxl_original_unet.py. SOURCE for the VAE: .ref/ComfyUI/comfy/ldm/modules/diffusionmodules/model.py with the config at .ref/ComfyUI/comfy/sd.py:652. SOURCE for the text encoders: .ref/ComfyUI/comfy/sdxl_clip.py and clip_config_bigg.json.

1.1 The five stages of one image

# stage runs what it is
1 tokenise 2 (cond, uncond) host. Two tokenisers, 77 tokens each
2 text encode 2 x 2 encoders CLIP-L (768) and OpenCLIP-bigG (1280), penultimate hidden states concatenated to 2048; bigG's projected pooled output is 1280
3 conditioning vector 2 concat(pooled[1280], sinusoid(orig_hw)[512], sinusoid(crop_tl)[512], sinusoid(target_hw)[512]) = 2816
4 UNet steps x 2 the diffusion loop
5 VAE decode 1 4-channel latent to RGB, 8x upsample

2816 = 1280 + 3 x 512, SOURCE sdxl_minimal_inference.py:195-199.

1.2 The UNet, at 1024x1024

Latent is 128x128x4. model_channels = 320, channel_mult = [1,2,4], num_res_blocks = 2, transformer_depth = [_, 2, 10], context_dim = 2048, num_head_channels = 64, use_linear_projection = True.

level spatial channels heads transformer depth
0 128x128 320 β€” none
1 64x64 640 10 2
2 32x32 1280 20 10
mid 32x32 1280 20 10

Head dim is 64 at every level β€” 320/5, 640/10, 1280/20 β€” and 64 is two 32-element K-blocks, so a head never splits one.

Instance counts, ARITHMETIC from the module tree:

module count note
ResnetBlock2D 17 6 down, 2 mid, 9 up
Transformer2DModel 11 2 + 2 down, 1 mid, 3 + 3 up
BasicTransformerBlock 70 4 + 20 + 10 + 30 + 6
Downsample2D (3x3 stride 2) 2
Upsample2D (nearest 2x + 3x3) 2
3x3 convolutions 40 34 in resnets, 2 down, 2 up, conv_in, conv_out
1x1 convolutions (resnet skip) 11 wherever in != out
nn.Linear 743 700 in transformer blocks, 22 proj_in/out, 17 resnet emb, 4 in the embeddings
LayerNorm 210 3 per transformer block
GroupNorm(32, ...) 46 34 resnet (eps 1e-5), 11 transformer (eps 1e-6), 1 final
SiLU 54
GELU (inside GEGLU) 70
softmax 140 70 self, 70 cross
residual add 255
channel concat (skip) 9 torch.cat([h, hs.pop()], dim=1)

1.3 What each layer actually issues

ResnetBlock2D(Cin, Cout) β€” sdxl_original_unet.py:298

   GroupNorm(32, Cin) -> SiLU -> Conv3x3(Cin, Cout)
   + Linear(1280, Cout)(SiLU(emb))[:, :, None, None]      broadcast over H,W
   GroupNorm(32, Cout) -> SiLU -> Conv3x3(Cout, Cout)
   + (Conv1x1(Cin, Cout) if Cin != Cout else identity)(x)

Note the order: norm, then activation, then conv. A conv -> activation fused kernel is fitting the wrong shape; group_norm -> silu is the pair worth fusing, and kernels.group_norm_silu already is that kernel.

Transformer2DModel β€” :678

   residual = x                                          [N, C, H, W]
   GroupNorm(32, C, eps=1e-6)
   permute(0,2,3,1).reshape(N, H*W, C)                   NCHW -> tokens
   Linear(C, C)                                          proj_in, SQUARE
   depth x BasicTransformerBlock
   Linear(C, C)                                          proj_out, SQUARE
   reshape(N,H,W,C).permute(0,3,1,2)                     tokens -> NCHW
   + residual

inner_dim = heads * dim_head == in_channels at every SDXL level, so both projections are square. use_linear_projection=True, so they are Linear, not Conv1x1.

BasicTransformerBlock β€” :603

   x = attn1(LayerNorm(x))              + x     self,  ctx = x
   x = attn2(LayerNorm(x), context)     + x     cross, ctx = 2048
   x = ff(LayerNorm(x))                 + x

CrossAttention β€” :391

   q = Linear(dim,  heads*64, bias=False)(x)
   k = Linear(ctx,  heads*64, bias=False)(source)
   v = Linear(ctx,  heads*64, bias=False)(source)
   reshape(B, L, heads, 64).permute(0,2,1,3).reshape(B*heads, L, 64)   x3
   softmax(q @ k.T * 64**-0.5) @ v
   reshape(B, heads, L, 64).permute(0,2,1,3).reshape(B, L, heads*64)
   Linear(heads*64, dim)                                    to_out.0, HAS bias

FeedForward β€” :581. net.0 is GEGLU, net.1 Identity, net.2 the projection out.

   h, gate = Linear(dim, 2*4*dim)(x).chunk(2, dim=-1)
   h * gelu(gate)                              gate is the SECOND half
   Linear(4*dim, dim)

Timestep embedding β€” :238. Sinusoidal, flip_sin_to_cos=True so it is concat(cos, sin), then Linear(320,1280) -> SiLU -> Linear(1280,1280). label_emb is the same shape from 2816.

1.4 Shapes and dtypes, per layer class, at 1024x1024

layer shape dtype native layout wanted
activation, conv path [H][W][C], 128x128x320 / 64x64x640 / 32x32x1280 fp16 ConvEntry = [C/32][plane][32]
conv weight [N][9C] = 320x2880 / 640x5760 / 1280x11520 fp16 or pre-quantised MXFP7 Entry(gn, 1)
activation, token path [B, H*W, C] = 4096x640 / 1024x1280 fp16 Entry(gm, nk) for a fill, Flat for a reduction, Tile after a drain
Linear weight [out][in], torch order fp16 / MXFP7 Entry(gn, nk)
attention q, k [B*heads, L, 64] fp16 Entry
attention v [B*heads, 64, L] β€” transposed fp16 Entry
attention scores [L, 64] per key block fp16 Tile from the GEMM, Flat for the softmax
context [B, 77, 2048] fp16 Entry, padded to 128 keys
GroupNorm operand [N*32, C/32 * H * W] fp16 Flat
timestep embedding [B, 320] then [B, 1280] fp16 Flat / Entry

The transposed v is not a preference: kernels.flash_attention declares v = L.In(..., Dv, Lkv), SOURCE compiler/kohakutpu/kernels/attention.py:139.

1.5 The VAE decoder

ch=128, ch_mult=[1,2,4,4], num_res_blocks=2, attn_resolutions=[], z_channels=4, scale factor 0.13025.

   z * (1/0.13025) -> Conv1x1(4,4) post_quant -> Conv3x3(4, 512)   at 128x128
   mid:  Resnet(512) -> AttnBlock(512) -> Resnet(512)              at 128x128
   up[3]: 3 x Resnet(512->512), Upsample(nearest2x + Conv3x3)      128 -> 256
   up[2]: 3 x Resnet(512->512), Upsample                           256 -> 512
   up[1]: 3 x Resnet(512->256), Upsample                           512 -> 1024
   up[0]: 3 x Resnet(256->128)                                     at 1024x1024
   GroupNorm(32,128) -> SiLU -> Conv3x3(128, 3)

The VAE's ResnetBlock is the same norm -> swish -> conv shape as the UNet's, with temb_channels=0 so no embedding add.

AttnBlock is the heaviest single operator in the whole pipeline. It is spatial self-attention over H*W = 16,384 tokens at d = 512, one head, with q/k/v/proj as 1x1 convolutions. The score matrix is 16,384 x 16,384.

1.6 What stays on the host

Tokenisation, the sinusoidal embedding table, the sampler (Euler/DPM++: a few elementwise ops on a 128x128x4 latent per step), CFG combination, and the final [-1,1] -> uint8 conversion. None of it is worth a kernel; all of it is a few hundred KB per step.


2. The arithmetic

2.1 Multiply-accumulate, per image at 1024x1024

ARITHMETIC. Convolution MAC = H_out * W_out * Cin * Cout * 9; linear MAC = rows * in * out; attention scores MAC = B*heads * Lq * Lkv * D and the same again for the weighted sum.

block MAC per UNet forward
3x3 and 1x1 convolutions 8.11e11
level 1 transformer (4 blocks, 4096 tokens, d=640) 2.16e11
level 2 transformer (20 blocks, 1024 tokens, d=1280) 6.77e11
mid transformer (10 blocks) 3.38e11
output level 2 transformer (30 blocks) 1.01e12
output level 1 transformer (6 blocks) 3.24e11
UNet total 3.38e12
stage MAC, whole image
UNet, 30 steps x CFG 2 2.03e14
text encoders, 2 prompts 1.1e11
VAE decoder 5.24e12
total 2.08e14 = 208 TMAC

The VAE decoder is 1.55x one UNet forward and it is spent almost entirely in the last two levels, where the plane is 512x512 and 1024x1024.

2.2 Against this machine

Peak, ARITHMETIC from results.md Β§8's measured 512 MAC/cycle per cluster and the v7 population of 8+2 / 6+2 / 8+2 / 8+2, which is 30 matmul clusters and 8 vector cores:

   30 clusters x 512 MAC/cycle = 15,360 MAC/cycle
   at a matmul clock of 400 MHz  6.14e12 MAC/s = 12.3 TFLOP/s
   at a matmul clock of 300 MHz  4.61e12 MAC/s =  9.2 TFLOP/s

400 MHz is the ceiling this silicon has been measured to, not the one the board profile asks for. The ship profile requests 600 MHz on the matmul domain; laddered on the card, that domain is bit-identical to 400, degrades at 450 and dies at 700, and at 600 the error is 157% (results.md Β§9.5). A peak quoted at 600 MHz describes a machine that does not exist, so the rows below stop at 400. The card currently runs its meshes at 100–150 MHz (multi-mesh.md Β§8.1), which is another factor again.

at 400 MHz at 300 MHz
208 TMAC at 100% of peak β€” an unreachable bound, stated as one 33.9 s 45.1 s
at 75.5%, the best MEASURED large-GEMM efficiency (results.md Β§8.2) 44.8 s 59.7 s
VAE decode alone, at 100% 0.85 s 1.14 s

Nothing in Β§2 is the problem. Β§4 is the problem β€” and it is the problem by a margin that no clock choice in this table would close.

2.3 Parameters and footprint

ARITHMETIC, summing the module tree. MXFP7 in memory is 7 bits per element plus one 8-bit E5M3 scale per 32, so (32*7 + 8)/32 = 7.25 bits = 0.906 B/element.

parameters fp16 MXFP7
UNet 2.56 e9 5.13 GB 2.32 GB
CLIP-L 1.23 e8 0.25 GB 0.11 GB
OpenCLIP bigG 6.94 e8 1.39 GB 0.63 GB
VAE decoder 4.95 e7 0.10 GB 0.04 GB
total 3.43 e9 6.87 GB 3.10 GB

One mesh has 4 GB of DDR4 (docs/address-map.md Β§Capacity). So:

  • fp16 UNet weights do not fit one mesh β€” 5.13 GB against 4 GB, before a single activation.
  • MXFP7 UNet weights do β€” 2.32 GB, leaving 1.7 GB for activations, which is ample (Β§2.4).
  • The whole pipeline in MXFP7 is 3.10 GB and fits one mesh; in fp16 it needs two.

That makes weights held in MXFP7 a capacity requirement here, not only the throughput win results.md Β§8.2 measured. "Pre-quantised" is no longer a distinction: a fetch is never transformed, so whatever format a weight is in memory is the format the cluster reads. The choice is which format to WRITE it in β€” the host converts, or a mover pass through the transform slot does β€” and at these sizes there is no choice at all.

2.4 The activation working set

tensor elements fp16
UNet level 0 activation 128x128x320 5.24e6 10.5 MB
the 9 skip tensors, summed 2.56e7 51 MB
VAE 1024x1024x128 activation 1.34e8 268 MB
VAE 512x512x256 6.71e7 134 MB
level 1 self-attention scores, 10 heads x 4096x4096 1.68e8 335 MB
VAE mid attention scores, 16384x16384 2.68e8 537 MB

Two of those must never be materialised, and flash_attention is the reason they need not be. The VAE's 268 MB activation is a DRAM tensor and nothing else; no staging store on this machine is within two orders of magnitude of it.


3. The operator inventory against what is built

Status is against compiler/kohakutpu/{ops,kernels} and the v7 bitstream. "partial" means it exists and refuses at SDXL's shapes.

# requirement status what exists what is missing
1 GEMM x @ w.T, w in torch [out][in] order supported ops.matmul, M=4a N=4b K=32c β€” every SDXL shape satisfies it β€”
2 GEMM + per-channel bias partial kernels.linear_bias, rides the resident tile via layout.ChannelBias fused-only. A grid wider than the vector cores is refused, not staged (hardware-wants.md Β§7)
3 GEMM + full-shape residual supported kernels.linear_add β€”
4 GEMM + SiLU / GELU / ReLU supported kernels.linear_silu, _gelu, _relu; MEASURED 0 relayouts β€”
5 3x3 conv, stride 1, pad 1 supported ops.conv2d, branch C. MEASURED at 16x16x32 -> 32: 1 dispatch, 0 relayouts, peak-rel max 1.7e-2, identical to a matmul nk forced to 1, so a pass is 3*(9C/32)+1 flits
6 3x3 conv + bias partial kernels.conv2d_bias bias must arrive at FULL shape; the per-channel form is written in the file as a comment and not built
7 3x3 conv, stride 2 supported ops.conv2d_stride2 + layout.ConvEntry(step=), the residue packer conv2d.md Β§4.1 derives. MEASURED at three shapes: 1 dispatch, 0 relayouts, error identical to a stride-1 conv, and 4.00x / 4.00x / 3.67x fewer cycles than dense-and-discard the packer's field cannot be called stride: lang/backend.py:_held reads that name off a layout as a batch BYTE stride and sizes the whole activation at ONE element. It is step
8 1x1 conv supported identity-equivalent to a GEMM in the ConvEntry layout (conv2d.md Β§4) β€”
9 LayerNorm, D <= 128 supported kernels.layernorm (fused), 1 stage β€”
10 LayerNorm, D = 640 or 1280 supported kernels.layernorm_wide through the SPLIT fold (Β§5.4). MEASURED at m=16: D=640 p50 3.73e-5 / p99 3.80e-4 / max 8.99e-4; D=1280 p50 3.37e-5 / p99 3.45e-4 / max 7.28e-4. Nothing past 1%, 0 relayouts, 0 saturated β€”
11 softmax, N a power of two x 128 supported MEASURED OK at 1024 and 4096 β€”
12 softmax, N = 1280 / 77 / 16384 supported 1280 and 16,384 through softmax_wide + part_for; 77 through ops.softmax_keys and api.softmax(keys=), with the padded columns exactly 0 and rows summing to 1 within 1e-4 the 77 mask is a table at the row's FULL shape, because Buffer.repeated serves one grid instance β€” Β§5.4
13 GroupNorm, group <= 128 supported kernels.group_norm irrelevant β€” no SDXL group is that small
14 GroupNorm at 40,960 / 81,920 / 163,840 supported kernels.group_norm_wide and group_norm_silu_wide, EVERY GROUP AT ONCE, plus api.group_norm / api.group_norm_silu. MEASURED max 1.17e-3 / 8.68e-4 / 8.25e-4, nothing past 1%, 0 saturated, 0 relayouts; at a mean 64 sigma off zero max 2.35e-3 w and b arrive at FULL shape: a per-channel gain over a plane would be a spread taking ONE element of every H*W, and a spread's sub-row is whole 16-element words
15 SiLU, GELU (both forms), sigmoid supported ops.silu, ops.gelu, kernels.gelu_tanh. MEASURED in the demo: silu 3.4e-4, gelu 2.4e-4 β€”
16 GEGLU supported kernels.geglu (two GEMMs sharing the x fill, MEASURED 0 relayouts) and demos/kohakutpu/sdxl/kernels.py:geglu_fused the chunked form still needs a host slice; the two-GEMM form does not, and is bias-free
17 flash attention, self partial kernels.flash_attention β€” correct, MEASURED demo grade 1.3e-2, and its conversions now RUN ON CARD 6*blocks - 3 conversions, 59-80% of the call in cycles, of which 3*blocks - 3 are DEAD. Β§5.2a locates every one and names its level
18 flash attention, cross (Lkv=77) partial the keys= argument pads to a whole block the same conversion bill as row 17
19 residual add, elementwise supported ops.residual and every linear_add β€”
20 head split / join permute DELETED, not implemented kernels.heads_of is a RESHAPE of the checkpoint weight; project_heads puts the batch on the weight; attn_out sweeps the heads as K-chunks of ONE accumulator. MEASURED: 4 host permutes per attention β†’ 0, at x1.00 cycles and x1.00 flits β€” Β§5.2 β€”
21 NCHW <-> tokens permute missing on device β€” 22 per forward, one pair per Transformer2DModel
22 transpose for attention v DELETED, not implemented ops.matmul(heads_of(wv), source) β€” the SHIPPED kernel with the weight as the batch and the operands swapped, giving [heads][D][L] COMPUTED rather than moved. No new kernel at all β€”
23 reshape (no element move) supported Buffer.as_rows, Reshaped only within a layout; a reshape that changes the fold across layouts is a relayout
24 broadcast / per-channel read supported Buffer.repeated, per_group, Spread β€” stride-0 in vec_agu, no pass at all the only address-dependent operand the DSL has
25 slice / chunk free on the channel axis MEASURED byte-identical at all five real SDXL shapes: a slice of the low channel blocks IS the leading prefix of a ConvEntry buffer a slice of the last axis of a Tile-ordered result is still strided. GEGLU needs none β€” the two-GEMM kernels.geglu never chunks
26 channel concat free, needs an allocator MEASURED byte-identical at all five real skip shapes: in [C/32][plane][32] the concatenation IS the two operands in order, provided the first is written without its tail the allocator has to be able to say ADJACENT β€” one span, two halves. kohakuaccel/lifetime.py, Β§5.8
27 nearest-2x upsample supported ops.conv2d_upsample2 + weights_for_upsample2: each output residue class is a 2x2 conv on the ORIGINAL plane, weights folded once at load. MEASURED 0 relayouts, error identical to a plain conv, 2.15x / 2.00x fewer cycles, and the 4x activation never written 1.08x only at 8x8, where the pad ring is the layer
28 sinusoidal timestep embedding partial L.exp2, L.table exist no sin/cos in the ALU. Β§5.9
29 cross-mesh split of a layer partial kohakutpu.meshes, MEASURED 2026-08-13 at 3.98x compute on 4 meshes, wall time worse either way β€” all transport β€”
30 MAG L2 staging (2 MB/mesh) built, unreachable mag_stage.v in the v7 top: 4 banks x 16,384 entries no compiler or driver file names it. machinespec.SPECIAL_BIT is declared and never used, and global_addr raises for any base with bit 36 or above set β€” so the compiler cannot form an L2 address at all
31 NoC L2 adapter (256 KB x 10/mesh) built, unreachable and narrower than it looks noc_l2_adapter.v on all 8 clusters and 2 vector cores l2_en is 0 at reset and nothing writes the CU_CTRL window. And it serves only the endpoint behind it and refuses multicast β€” see Β§4.4
32 memory mover TRANSPOSE not needed COPY with the two walkers in different orders mode 1 is allocated and faults if requested (docs/spec/control-registers.md Β§3), and it is a canned convenience rather than a capability: every index permutation is affine, so six loop levels a side express it. What the engine genuinely cannot do is anything finer than a 32-byte word. See H8 for who may command it

4. The layout problem, which is the actual blocker

4.1 What a relayout is here

A buffer on this card exists in exactly one byte order, and the orders are not interchangeable:

layout granule who wants it
Entry(groups, blocks) 4 lanes x 32 K elements = 256 B a cluster FILL
Tile(grid, gm, gn) one 4x4 sub-tile = one 32 B word a cluster DRAIN
Flat row-major fp16 any vector-core row reduction
ConvEntry [C/32][plane][32] a convolution fill
ChannelBias(gn) one word per column group a fused per-channel epilogue

MEASURED: Tile((2,8),8,8) and Entry(8,2) over a 64x256 array are 32,768 bytes each and 16,192 of 16,384 elements land in different places. They are not the same order under any reading.

lang/backend.py:_conversions computes every order change a kernel implies and records it on Compiled.conversions. Nothing executes that list. The only mechanism that performs a relayout is rt.Tensor.address, which reads the tensor back to the host, repacks it in numpy, and uploads it again β€” counted in Device.counters["relayouts"].

4.2 The measured bill

MEASURED on the unit models:

kernel shape dispatches relayouts
linear_silu 64x128x64 2 0
geglu 64x128x64 4 0
conv2d 16x16x32 -> 32 1 0
mlp 64x128x256x64 3 1
flash_attention 4 heads, L=64, D=64 6 3
flash_attention 4 heads, L=128 10 9
flash_attention 4 heads, L=256 18 21

3, 9, 21 against 1, 2, 4 key blocks is 6 * blocks - 3: six host round trips per key block.

The three conversions per key block, SOURCE flash_attention.plan(...).conversions at L=128:

   t4  scores    tile:4x2:8x8  ->  flat            the softmax band reads rows
   t5  weights   flat          ->  entry:8x2       the p@v GEMM fills it
   t6  part_o    tile:4x2:8x8  ->  flat            the accumulate band reads rows

and the same three in reverse on the next block. Every cluster-to-vector-core handoff through memory is a layout change, and there is exactly one path that avoids it β€” the fused epilogue, which drains the tile straight into a vector core's L1 over the NoC and never lands in memory (memory.md Β§1). That path is limited to a grid no wider than the vector cores and to an epilogue reading the resident tile plus at most one per-channel operand.

One whole BasicTransformerBlock, MEASURED at DIM=256, HEADS=4, TOKENS=64, CTX=256 β€” 2.5 MB of parameters:

   dispatches   79
   rounds      377
   flits    38,412
   sent     12.5 MB      to the card
   fetched   9.05 MB     back from it
   relayouts    24       compiler-level, each a host round trip
   host permutes 9       head split x6, head join x2, geglu chunk x1

33 host round trips, and 21.6 MB of link traffic for 2.5 MB of weights.

4.3 The same bill at SDXL's shape

ARITHMETIC, applying 6 * blocks - 3 and the temp sizes the kernel declares (span x block for scores, weights and part_o, with span = Lq when qblock is unset):

Each conversion moves the buffer down and back, so it costs 2 x the temp; there are three temps per key block.

attention B*heads Lq = Lkv key blocks one temp, all heads host bytes per call
level 1 self 10 4096 64 5.24 MB 2.01 GB
level 2 self 20 1024 16 2.62 MB 252 MB
level 1 cross 10 4096 / 128 2 5.24 MB 62.9 MB
level 2 cross 20 1024 / 128 2 2.62 MB 31.5 MB

Per UNet forward: 10 x 2.01 + 60 x 0.252 + 10 x 0.063 + 60 x 0.032 = 37.7 GB. Per image at 30 steps and CFG: 2.3 TB through the host link.

This is not a performance figure to improve. It is the statement that flash_attention as written cannot run SDXL at any clock, on any transport, and that the layout conversion β€” not arithmetic, not bandwidth, not the ISA β€” is the thing standing between this machine and a modern network.

4.4 Why the L2 that is on the card does not currently help

Both stores are in the v7 ship top, SOURCE src/kohakutpu/top/generated/ktpu_ship_2x2_8c2v_1m.v:

where size reached by state
MAG staging mag_stage.v on the converged path inside the memory agent 4 banks x 16,384 entries x 1,024 b = 2 MB per mesh address: addr[39]=1, addr[35:32]=0, mesh in [37:36] built, no software
NoC L2 adapter noc_l2_adapter.v spliced into each local link 8,192 lines x 256 b = 256 KB, x8 clusters + x2 vector cores = 2.5 MB per mesh address in a window programmed over CU_CTRL built, disabled at reset, no software

Five facts from the RTL that decide what each is good for:

  1. The MAG store is mesh-wide and shared. It sits behind the DRAM port's arbiter (src/kohakuaccel/sysnode/core/mag_dram_port.v), the converged path where every requester meets β€” compute units, the mover, the interlink, and the host through S_AXI_MEM; a foreign mesh's address is not claimed and passes through, which is what lets mesh 0 reach mesh 3's L2. This is the one store on the card that two different units can hand a tensor through.
  2. Only its narrow port is wired. src/kohakuaccel/sysnode/core/mag.v ties the store's entry-granular 1,024-bit port A off β€” the whole subject of notes/cache/mag-staging.md Β§2 β€” and all traffic goes through the 256-bit port B from the DRAM port, one claimed burst at a time. So the store's advantage is latency and DRAM-traffic relief, not width; it is the same 256 bits per MAG clock the DRAM path is.
  3. The NoC adapter can only serve the unit behind it. It snoops its own endpoint's outbound flits (eu_*), so it is a private scratchpad. It cannot move data between clusters, and notes/cache/noc-staging.md already records this as the limit form 2 turned out to have.
  4. The NoC adapter refuses a multicast fill. wire i_mine = i_fits && (i_nd == 2'd0) β€” a fill asking for extra destinations is forwarded to MAG whatever the address, because this adapter can only answer the node behind it. It no longer looks at flags[4]: a fetch is never transformed, so that bit is reserved and ignored and refusing on it would have given a different answer from MAG for the same request.
  5. Neither is addressable from the compiler. machinespec.SPECIAL_BIT (1 << 39) is declared and referenced nowhere, and global_addr raises for any base that does not fit one mesh's 64 GB β€” so no arena allocation can ever carry bit 39. The adapters' l2_en is 0 at reset and nothing in driver/ writes their CU_CTRL window.

Conclusion for the transpose question the brief asks about: a transpose that must not round-trip through DRAM has to stage in the MAG store, because it is the only one both the producing and the consuming unit can address. The per-unit adapters are the wrong shape for it and always will be.


5. Kernel designs for the gaps

5.1 The enabling change: perform a relayout on the card

Level: compiler. No RTL, no ISA.

Everything needed already exists and is unwired:

piece where state
the conversion list lang/backend.py:_conversions computed, recorded, never executed
a 4-dimension strided walk on VFILL and VDRAIN vec_agu, hw/vector.py:dim(stride, bound) shipped; signed 18-bit stride, 16-bit bound
the Flat -> Entry dims, and the refusal when they do not fit isa/vecemit.py:entry_walk written and unit-tested, called by nothing but its test
a kernel that takes a strided drain isa/vecemit.py:ElementwiseKernel(..., drain=dims) implemented, used only by compiler/tests/test_layout.py

So the design is: emit a relayout stage for each entry of Compiled.conversions, as a vector-core program that fills contiguously and drains strided (or the reverse).

# what the compiler should emit for (at, name, Tile(...), Entry(g, b)):
#
#   VSETVL / VSETMODE FLAT
#   VFILL  ad_in   <- contiguous run of `words` 32-byte words at src
#   VBAR
#   for each chunk: VLD v0, ad_ld ; VST v0, ad_st          identity chain
#   VDRAIN ad_out  -> STRIDED walk, dims from entry_walk(...)
#   VHALT

Bounds, SOURCE from the RTL constants:

bound value consequence
vec_agu dimensions 4 a permutation needing 5 must be split into two passes
vec_core F_LEN 256 entries per VFILL/VDRAIN one pass moves at most 8 KB
L1_SAFE 320 words, or exactly 512 the pass's footprint is 2 x words; 256-word in + 256-word out is 512, which is the legal upper point
entry_walk returns None over 4 dims or over 256 words the compiler must tile, not truncate β€” test_layout.py pins this

A 64x64 fp16 tile is exactly 8 KB = 256 words = one pass. That is not a coincidence worth relying on twice, but it means the attention temps (span x block at block = 64) tile into whole passes with no remainder.

Cost. A relayout pass is one vector-core dispatch moving 8 KB. At the flash_attention bill in Β§4.3, level-1 self-attention's 192 conversions become 192 x (5.12 MB / 8 KB) = 123,000 passes β€” which is worse than useless. So Β§5.1 alone is not enough; it must be combined with Β§5.2 and Β§5.3, which remove most of the conversions rather than making them cheaper.

What to build first, and how to prove it: wire one conversion β€” mlp's single t1: Tile -> Entry, MEASURED at 1 relayout today β€” and check that the counter goes to 0 with the result unchanged at the MEASURED peak-relative p50 3.7e-3 / max 2.2e-2. That is a one-kernel, one-counter, one-number test.

5.2 The head split is an N-partition, and costs nothing

Level: kernel. BUILT and MEASURED. kernels.heads_of, kernels.project_heads and kernels.attn_out; compiler/tests/test_head_split.py.

_heads in the demo permutes [B, L, heads*64] -> [B*heads, L, 64] on the host, MEASURED at 8 permutes per transformer block. It does not need to exist.

to_q is x @ Wq.T with Wq of shape [heads*64][ctx]. Output column j belongs to head j // 64. The head axis is the N axis of the projection, and N is already the grid axis the compiler tiles on β€” so the split is a RESHAPE of the checkpoint array, and the batch axis rides the WEIGHT:

# `heads_of` is a reshape, not a slice: the head axis is already outermost.
#     wq = heads_of(Wq, heads)               # [heads][64][ctx], same bytes
#     q  = project_heads(x, wq)              # [heads][L][64], the attention shape

MEASURED: np.array_equal with the wide projection followed by a host permute.

It costs NOTHING, and the reason is a property of the head width rather than of the split. A lane group is FOUR elements, so gn = 8 covers 32 columns and a 64-wide head is TWO whole N tiles β€” the tiling never changes and nothing is recomputed. A head width that was not a whole number of N tiles would force gn = 4 and the penalty in the third row below. MEASURED at 256x1280 -> 20 heads x 64, and the same at 1024x640 -> 10x64 and 256x2048 -> 20x64:

intensity 2Β·gmΒ·gn/(gm+gn) cycles flits
one wide projection, gm=8 gn=8 8.00 418,176 19,520
per-head projection, gm=8 gn=8 8.00 418,176 19,520
per-head projection, gm=8 gn=4 5.33 551,264 (x1.32) 39,040 (x2.00)
per-head projection, gm=8 gn=2 3.20 825,184 (x1.97) 78,080 (x4.00)

There is no trade to make. gn = 4 is a 1.32x cycle and 2.00x flit penalty that nothing about a 64-wide head asks for, and with the clock coming down the flits column is the one that matters.

The join disappears the same way: to_out contracts over heads*64 and that axis is head-major in the checkpoint too, so the weight's chunk index IS the sweep step and neither operand is sliced. kernels.attn_out sweeps (head, K-chunk) on ONE loop counter β€” a GEMM chains on the innermost counter and 0 clears the tile, so two loops would keep only the last head β€” with the head half of the step rebound the way Tap rebinds a convolution's.

MEASURED at 1, 2, 3 and 8 K-chunks per head, and priced against the two passes it replaces:

cycles
128x256 h=4: join matmul 9,600 + residual 3,584 13,184
128x256 h=4: attn_out 13,184 (x1.000)
256x1280 h=20: join matmul 418,176 + residual 35,840 454,016
256x1280 h=20: attn_out 454,016 (x1.000)

The residual is not optional in attn_out and is not a compromise: Lq is o's rows over heads, which the extent solver cannot divide, so the result's own length has to be read off an operand β€” and SDXL adds one here every time.

Requirement 20 and 22 both go away. v transposed to [D][L] needs no new kernel at all: to_v produces [L][heads*64] and the kernel wants [64][L] per head, which is Wv_h @ source.T β€” the SHIPPED ops.matmul with the weight as the batch and the operands swapped. Nothing is transposed at runtime.

What the head split does NOT do. MEASURED: it deletes 4 host permutes per attention and zero cycles of conversion. flash_attention's conversion cost is identical before and after it, to the cycle β€” 116,610 at 4x128, 541,114 at 4x256, 2,693,306 at 20x256 β€” because every one of those conversions is INSIDE the kernel and the projections carry none in either shape (Β§5.2a). The permutes this section deletes are host round trips, which are not cycles on this machine at all; what they cost is link traffic, and Β§4.3 prices that.

5.2a Where attention's cycles actually are

MEASURED with cost.relayouts, which prices one stage per conversion. A conversion is 59-80% of a flash_attention call, and it is 6*blocks - 3 of them β€” three cluster-to-vector-core handoffs per key block, and three back.

heads Lq Lkv blocks listed RUN conversion cycles cost.time share
4 128 128 2 9 6 77,740 157,612 49.3%
4 128 256 4 21 12 155,480 298,328 52.1%
4 256 256 4 21 12 309,208 507,352 60.9%
20 256 256 4 21 12 1,539,032 2,526,168 60.9%
10 512 512 8 45 24 3,078,064 4,547,504 67.7%

compiled.conversions LISTS 6*blocks - 3 and the runtime RUNS 3*blocks. The other 3*blocks - 3 rewrote a buffer the very next stage overwrote wholesale and never read β€” the temps are reused across key blocks, so after block j read scores as flat, block j+1's DRAIN wrote the whole buffer as tile and the old order was already dead. They are no longer executed or charged. The list is therefore no longer the authority: anything that zips compiled.conversions against cost.relayouts misaligns after the first drop, and the resulting mislabelling is silent β€” a conversion's cost gets attributed to the wrong pair of layouts, which reads as a plausible number rather than as an error.

What is left is two granule transposes a key block, and they are 99.6% of it. Priced from each conversion's own layouts at 4x256:

temp conversion each live share of the conversion cost
scores tile <-> flat 38,511 4 154,044 β€” 49.8%
part_o tile <-> flat 38,511 4 154,044 β€” 49.8%
weights flat <-> entry 280 4 1,120 β€” 0.4%

The expense is not "a conversion", it is "a conversion that touches Tile." MEASURED over (1024, 64), which is what these temps are:

pair destination words whole in the source kind cycles route_for
flat <-> entry 4096 of 4096 word 280 None
tile <-> flat 0 of 4096 granule 38,511 None
tile <-> entry 0 of 4096 granule 38,511 None

137x, and route_for returns None for both Tile pairs β€” no staging route beats doing it in place, because the cost is ALU work and not movement.

"Attention is vector-bound" and "attention is relayout-bound" are NOT the same fact, and they converge at real sizes. The standing figure β€” Lq=64 Lkv=256, one head, 45,056-47,104 cycles at MG 3,584 against VC 43,520, a 92% vector share β€” was recorded as a property of the workload. It no longer reproduces: the same shape now prices at 85,224, because the cost model of the day charged NOTHING for a conversion. cost.relayouts' own docstring says so: "a conversion is NOT a statement, so time_of cannot see it". So that baseline cannot have been evidence about the transpose in either direction.

Splitting cost.time by unit, with conversion stages separated by by_kind:

shape total MG VC of VC: granule transpose of VC: the rest
h=1 Lq=64 Lkv=256 85,224 4.2% 95.8% 20,968 β€” 25.7% 60,672 β€” 74.3%
h=1 Lq=256 Lkv=256 210,712 5.1% 94.9% 78,616 β€” 39.3% 121,344 β€” 60.7%
h=4 Lq=256 Lkv=256 507,352 7.8% 92.2% 309,208 β€” 66.1% 158,720 β€” 33.9%
h=20 Lq=256 Lkv=256 2,526,168 7.7% 92.3% 1,539,032 β€” 66.0% 793,600 β€” 34.0%

Vector-bound holds at every shape, 92-96%. The transpose's share of the vector side is a quarter at the standing shape and two thirds at any real one, because the granule cost is per-WORD ALU work while the arithmetic is per-RUN, so more words tilt it. At SDXL's sizes ~61% of the whole call is the transpose.

The consequence for the baseline: "the number any attention rewrite must beat" is mostly a layout conversion, and a rewrite of the softmax chain can only address the other 34%. Compare per unit AND with the conversion stages split out, or the comparison measures the wrong term.

5.2b Can a flash kernel be laid out with NO transpose? No, and here is why

PROVED NOT POSSIBLE, and the obstruction is 2-D. The lead was that softmax reduces over KEYS while VRED folds CONTIGUOUS lanes, so a (B, L, H, D) assignment where the reduction axis is the contiguous one would delete the conversion. There is no such assignment, for any tiling.

A Tile word IS a 4x4 sub-tile. MEASURED, word 0 of a packed 32x32 index image:

element indices [0,1,2,3, 32,33,34,35, 64,65,66,67, 96,97,98,99]
which is rows [0,1,2,3] and columns [0,1,2,3]

So in Tile order the longest CONTIGUOUS run is 4 elements along a row and 1 along a column β€” for all sixteen tilings, gm and gn each in {1,2,4,8}. Flat and Entry run the full row. VRED folds a multiple of 16 at most 128, of ONE row. Four is never sixteen.

That is why choosing among B, L, H and D cannot reach it: those decide only which axis is M and which is N, while the sub-tile breaks both axes at 4. A 1-D choice cannot answer a 2-D obstruction. Head dim being 64 at every SDXL level buys nothing here.

And the compiler already exploits the only freedom that does exist. Elementwise work is order-agnostic β€” the same permutation of every operand and of the result gives the same permutation of the answer β€” and the compiler knows:

a GEMM followed by conversions cycles the drained temp ends in
one ELEMENTWISE pass 0 4,928 tile:8x2:8x8, and so do the other operands
one REDUCTION 1 14,199 flat, at 9,783 cycles

Conversions are caused by reductions, and only by reductions. So the floor follows directly:

  • scores -> flat is forced by the softmax reduction. Irreducible.
  • weights -> entry is 0.4%. Not worth an argument.
  • part_o -> flat is NOT forced by a reduction. It is dragged there because it is read in the same elementwise pass as corr, and corr is an output of the flat softmax band.

So the floor looks like ONE crossing a key block and we pay TWO β€” and closing it means acc_o's chain never meeting a flat operand, which means no per-block corr. That cannot be rearranged away. Writing the accumulation out, acc_o_final = sum_j part_o_j * prod_{k>j} corr_k, and pre-scaling weights_j by 1/s_j with s_j = prod_{k<=j} corr_k removes the per-block correction β€” but s_j = exp2(top_0 - top_j) TELESCOPES, so that pre-scale is algebraically identical to never subtracting a running max at all. The rescale IS the numerical safety; it can be given up, not reorganised.

Therefore: two granule transposes per key block is the floor for online-softmax flash attention on this machine, and flash_attention is already at it. Below two means a fixed max, which is the thing flash exists to avoid.

What would move the floor, by level:

change level effect
a drain that writes row-major, or an L1 read granule matching the 4x4 drain RTL the root: MG's output granule is the whole obstruction
the C6a full-shape epilogue operand compiler + ISA does NOT help here β€” it would let part_o fuse, but corr still crosses at the same size
a fixed-max softmax kernel one crossing a block instead of two, for the numerical safety flash exists for

The MAG mover cannot help with any of it: it is word-granular (lt_ma faults a non-32-byte-aligned destination) and the two orders disagree BELOW the word. It is the right engine for flat <-> entry, which is already 0.4% of the bill.

The three per block are real handoffs, and each is blocked at a different level. Named here so nobody re-derives them:

handoff why it lands in memory level
scores tile -> flat the softmax band needs row_max/row_sum over the drained tile, and a resident tile is 4x4 sub-tile order in L1, so a row of gn*4 columns is spread across gn words while VRED folds contiguous lanes ISA / drain order
weights flat -> entry a vector core writes it and a cluster fills it, and VC -> cluster L1 is shut because a vector core cannot emit MXFP7 RTL (H9)
part_o tile -> flat a fused epilogue's side operand is spelled b[j] β€” ONE index on a 1-D buffer β€” and lowered as a per-CHANNEL walk, gn words at stride 0 down gm rows. acc_o is full shape. There is no spelling for a full-shape operand in a fused epilogue at all: acc_o[a, b] is a Slice, the cluster's own two-index view, and a Slice has no arithmetic compiler / a missing form

block == Dv is not a preference and cannot be raised to cut the block count: the accumulate reads corr at span x block and part_o at span x Dv, and an elementwise pass walks one length β€” MEASURED, block=128 refuses with "the pass writing 't7' reads operands of different lengths". It would not have helped either: the conversion BYTES are 3 * Lq * Lkv however the key axis is cut.

The part_o one is costed, and PROVED NOT POSSIBLE from kernels/. Four rewrites were built and run, not argued:

rewrite result
as shipped β€” corr materialised, part_o staged 9 conversions, 196,482 cycles, 116,610 of them conversion
1. the correction rides the softmax band, so corr never exists COMPILES β€” the band does take the extra operand. 9 conversions still, and 200,578 cycles: WORSE. corr was never a converted buffer; it is written and read by vector passes only, both flat. Removing it saves a temp and buys nothing
2. rewrite 1, then a fused epilogue reading the tile plus acc_o alone NOT EXPRESSIBLE. acc_o[a, b] is a Slice and a Slice has no arithmetic β€” TypeError: float() argument must be ... not 'Slice'
3. a fused epilogue reading the tile plus acc_o AND corr NOT EXPRESSIBLE, same reason β€” unsupported operand type(s) for *: 'Slice' and 'Slice'

Two more were ruled out without building: making the accumulate tile-ordered throughout moves the same conversion onto acc_o, since corr is the only flat operand in that chain and it is the same size; and one accumulator across every key block hits _chainable's one-loop rule, while the two-pass fixed-max softmax it would need materialises the whole score matrix β€” the 335 MB Β§2.4 says must never exist.

So the change is a full-shape side operand in a fused epilogue, which needs a spelling as well as a slot. The budget is there: at gm = gn = 8 a tile plus TWO full-shape operands is 7 of 8 descriptors (AD_IN, AD_OUT, AD_DRAIN, two BFILL, two BREAD) and 256 of the 320 safe L1 words, against 5 and 136 today. It deletes one of the three handoffs, worth 38,511 cycles per key block β€” 20.8% of a 4x256 call β€” in isa/vecemit.py:ResidentEpilogueKernel, lang/cluster.py's Slice, and _epilogue's one-operand check.

5.3 Cross-unit and cross-mesh staging through the MAG L2

Level: compiler + driver. This is the answer to "how to use L2 to cache temporary state so a transpose does not round-trip through DRAM".

The MAG store is the only one both a cluster and a vector core can address (Β§4.4). The design has three parts and no RTL:

(a) An L2 address space in the allocator. machinespec.global_addr gains a tier argument, and the arena gains a second region:

def global_addr(self, base, mesh=None, tier="dram"):
    where = self.mesh(mesh).index
    if tier == "l2":
        # aperture 0. 2 MB per mesh, MEASURED from the shipped
        # STAGE_BANKS=4 / STAGE_ENTRIES=16384 parameters.
        if base >= L2_BYTES:                       # 2 << 20
            raise ValueError(...)
        return SPECIAL_BIT | (where << MESH_SHIFT) | base
    ...

SPECIAL_BIT is already defined at machinespec.py:24 and used nowhere. The capacity constant is the one thing to read from the bitstream rather than assume, because 00_config.tcl sets it per build.

(b) A tier= on L.temp. A kernel author says where a temp lives; the compiler refuses one that does not fit:

scores  = L.temp(span, block, tier="l2")     # 8 KB per head-block. Fits.
weights = L.temp(span, block, tier="l2")
part_o  = L.temp(span, Dv,    tier="l2")

(c) The relayout pass of Β§5.1 reads and writes L2 addresses. Then a conversion is: vector core VFILLs 8 KB from L2, VDRAINs it strided back into L2. Two URAM round trips at 2-cycle latency, instead of two DRAM round trips or one host round trip.

What fits, ARITHMETIC against 2 MB:

candidate size fits
one attention key block's k and v, D=64, block=64 16 KB yes, trivially
one head's whole K and V at Lkv=4096, D=64 1.0 MB yes β€” and every query block re-reads all of it
one head's whole K and V at Lkv=1024 256 KB yes, 8 heads at once
a cross-attention K and V, all heads, Lkv=128, d=640 328 KB yes β€” re-read by all 64 query blocks
the three attention temps at span = Lq = 4096, 10 heads 15.4 MB no β€” must be tiled by head, or qblock set
a 3x3 conv weight at 1280 -> 1280, MXFP7 13.4 MB no; a K-chunk of it does
any VAE decoder activation past 128x128 67-268 MB no, by two orders of magnitude

The design rule that falls out: L2 holds the operand that is re-read, not the operand that is streamed. K and V are re-read by every query block; Q and the output are streamed. Put K and V in L2, per head, and the DRAM traffic of a self-attention drops by the query-block count.

Cross-mesh. src/kohakuaccel/sysnode/core/mag_stage.v:70 tests the mesh id absolutely, and the header says a foreign address passes through β€” so mesh 0 writing SPECIAL_BIT | (3 << 36) | off lands in mesh 3's L2. Combined with cross-mesh is write-only (push, never pull) and the doorbell, an all-to-all reshard is a scatter into peers' L2, which is exactly the formulation notes/data-movement-problem.md Β§2.3 says push-only forces and does not forbid. Untraced, and the one thing to check before designing on it: whether the S_AXI_MEM / interlink path actually forwards a remote staging address, or only a remote DRAM one. docs/address-map.md flags the analogous question for host traffic and says do not plan around it until someone follows the path.

5.4 LayerNorm and softmax at SDXL's widths

Level: compiler. BUILT and MEASURED. kernels/wide.py, ops/norm.py, api.py; compiler/tests/test_sdxl_norms.py. The impossibility proof below is worth more than the fix, because it rules out the obvious approach for good.

A fold that halves what is left at every level demands a power-of-two sub-row count. The group-norm fold solves the same problem without that restriction β€” it lifts an odd row into a buffer of its own length and folds it in at the end:

    tails, n = [], rows
    while n > 1:
        if n % 2:
            tail = L.temp(1, width)
            with units(1) as e:
                tail[e] <<= held.rows_from(n - 1)[e] * 1.0
            tails.append(tail)
            n -= 1
        ...

There are two fold implementations in this compiler and only one of them can count. MEASURED: group_stats.plan accepts rows = 320, 640 and 1280 β€” every SDXL group size β€” while api.layernorm refuses D = 640 and D = 1280.

A PERIODIC TAIL CANNOT WORK, AND THAT IS PROVED. The obvious fix β€” lift the odd sub-row into one row per group and read it back with per_group at stride 0 β€” was tried, and it is impossible rather than merely awkward. A spread reaches a whole number of groups, m * rows. The fold's final buffer is forced to exactly (m-1) * rows + 1: one sub-row shorter and the last group's start falls off the end, one longer and some level read past its own operand. A multiple of rows and (m-1)*rows + 1 never agree, so lang/backend.py:_agree refuses the pass β€” correctly, and that refusal is what you get.

What works is a SPLIT. An even count halves, as this fold always did; an odd count splits at the power of two below it and joins the two partial buffers, both sized to exactly the final length. count == 1 is a VIEW and no pass at all, and the invariant rows - off - count + 1 == out is what makes its reach exactly the result's, so the join above it agrees without any spread:

def _fold_span(src, off, count, out, rows, width, part, join):
    if count == 1:
        return src.rows_from(off) if off else src
    if not count % 2:
        ...                                    # the halving, unchanged
    top = 1 << (count.bit_length() - 1)
    big = _fold_span(src, off, top, out, rows, width, part, join)
    rest = _fold_span(src, off + top, count - top, out, rows, width, part, join)
    joined = L.temp(out, width)                # both partials are `out` rows
    ...

It costs PASSES, never reach: the fold still shrinks by exactly rows - 1 however rows factorises, and at a power of two it emits the program it always emitted, statement for statement. SHIPPED in kernels/wide.py; every SDXL width and group size runs at 0 relayouts and 0 saturations, MEASURED in compiler/tests/test_sdxl_norms.py.

softmax at N=77 is a different refusal β€” VRED needs a multiple of 16 β€” and the answer is the one flash_attention uses: pad the key axis to a width it does fold and pass keys=77. SHIPPED as ops.softmax_keys and api.softmax(keys=). PAD WITH ZEROS: the mask lands after the exponential, which is exact, but the MAXIMUM is still taken over the padded row, and a pad above the real maximum drives every real term toward underflow.

The mask is a table at the row's FULL shape, and that is not a choice. Buffer.repeated is this DSL's only bounded broadcast and it is addressed at part * instance, so it serves ONE grid instance: MEASURED, a 512-element table against a 2,048-element span at one instance leaves 1,152 of 2,048 elements unwritten and reports success, and past one instance the walk refuses. A bounded edge mask β€” and a staged per-channel operand with it β€” waits on lang/backend.py:_span exempting a broadcast from the instance offset, which _agree already does.

softmax at N=16,384 (the VAE mid attention) was refused only because part=8192 is not whole groups. kernels.part_for is the dispatch that fixes it and api._fold applies it, so a caller names neither. MEASURED at 2 x 16,384: p50 9.77e-6, p99 8.10e-5, max 6.16e-4, nothing past 1%.

5.5 GroupNorm at SDXL's group sizes

Level: kernel. BUILT and MEASURED as kernels.group_norm_wide and group_norm_silu_wide, sharing layernorm_wide's arithmetic rather than copying it β€” a GroupNorm is a LayerNorm whose rows span the group. group_stats works (MEASURED) and stops at the statistics; what SDXL needs is the whole normalisation, over all 32 groups, in one kernel.

@kernel
def group_norm_wide(x=L.In(..., R, W), w=L.In(..., R, W), b=L.In(..., R, W),
                    y=L.Out(..., R, W), *, eps=1e-5, rows=1280, width=VLMAX,
                    part=PART):
    """`(x-mu)*rstd*w + b` over groups of `rows*width`, EVERY GROUP AT ONCE.

    `rows` need not be a power of two once `fold_flat` carries an odd tail
    (5.4); SDXL's three group sizes are 1280, 640 and 320 sub-rows.
    """
    v, wv, bv, out = [t.as_rows(width) for t in (x, w, b, y)]
    mu = group_mean(v, rows, width, part)          # two scalings, never one
    dev = L.temp(v.rows, width)
    dev <<= v - mu.per_group(rows)
    msq = group_msq(dev, rows, width, part)        # divide BEFORE squaring
    inv = L.temp(msq.rows, width)
    inv <<= L.rsqrt(msq + eps)
    scaled = L.temp(v.rows, width)
    scaled <<= dev * inv.per_group(rows)
    out <<= scaled * wv + bv

This is layernorm_wide with rows set to the group rather than to the channel axis β€” the same relationship group_norm_fused has to layernorm_fused. Three properties are forced and each was paid for once already:

  • Two passes over the group, not E[x^2] - E[x]^2. At a group of 8,192 with a mean 64 sigma off zero the identity returns the variance 21.5% low on this lane's 16-bit significand (SOURCE kernels/groupnorm.py header).
  • Scale before folding and again after the row sum. A group of 163,840 sums far past fp16's 65,504, and so does rows * width itself.
  • w and b arrive at full shape, because an elementwise pass reads operands of one length. For a per-channel gain over C/32 * H * W this is a Spread with period H*W β€” one AGU dimension, no pass β€” which demos/.../nn.py:GroupNorm currently does by materialising the broadcast.

MEASURED accuracy to beat, from group_stats' own docstring at 163,840 elements: mean 2.4e-04, variance 7.7e-04, against 7.5e-02 for the form that skips the spread.

Fuse the SiLU. kernels.group_norm_silu already exists for the VLMAX case and is the exact pair every UNet and VAE resnet uses. The wide form should carry the same y <<= h * sigmoid(h) tail; it is two passes rather than one because h is read twice and a vector chain carries one running result.

5.6 Convolution: what runs, and the one thing that does not

Stride-1 3x3 is built and MEASURED correct at 1 dispatch and 0 relayouts. conv2d.md Β§4 has the derivation; nothing here changes it.

Stride 2 is a packer, not a kernel β€” BUILT and MEASURED as ops.conv2d_stride2 over layout.ConvEntry(step=): 1 dispatch, 0 relayouts, error identical to stride 1, and 4.00x / 4.00x / 3.67x fewer cycles than dense-and-discard at 16Β², 32Β², 64Β². The field is step, not stride, because lang/backend.py:_held reads .stride off a layout as a batch BYTE stride and a 2 there sizes the whole activation at one element. conv2d.md Β§4.1 derives it and the derivation is verified numerically but not built. Splitting both axes by residue makes the tap offset constant again:

    dy = qy*s + ry ,  dx = qx*s + rx
    A[s*oy + dy, s*ox + dx]  ==  sub[ry, rx][oy + qy, ox + qx]
    offset = (ry*s + rx)*plane + qy*Wsub + qx          a constant, as at stride 1

So ConvEntry gains a stride parameter that packs s*s sub-planes instead of one, Tap.rebind gains the (ry, rx) term, and nothing else changes β€” no compiler mechanism beyond the lane offset that already exists, no ISA, no RTL. Cost is s*s sub-planes of the same total size. The alternative, computing dense and discarding, costs exactly s^2 = 4.0x MAC, measured at all three shapes.

Two caveats stand, neither this page's to fix: a tapped fill straddles a 4 KB boundary on 6 of 9 taps and mag_mem_port.v has no split logic (hardware-wants.md Β§5, untested on silicon); and nk is forced to 1, so a pass is 3*(9C/32) + 1 flits and the tile is the only lever β€” 22-26k flits near gm*gn <= TILES against 45-47 million at gm=2, gn=1.

5.7 Cross-attention: the shape that suits this machine best

Cross-attention is the cheapest attention in SDXL and the one L2 helps most.

level 1 level 2
Lq 4096 1024
Lkv 77, padded to 128 77, padded to 128
K and V, all heads, fp16 164 KB each 164 KB each
query blocks re-reading them 64 16

K and V together are 328 KB β€” 12% of one mesh's MAG L2 β€” and they are re-read by every query block. Staging them (Β§5.3) turns 64 DRAM re-reads into 64 URAM re-reads and removes them from the DRAM budget entirely.

The kernel is flash_attention with keys=77 and no other change; the edge mask it builds from L.table is exactly the padding this needs. What must change is only where k and v are allocated.

5.8 Upsample, downsample and concat

Concat and slice are allocation, not arithmetic, and the bytes are now PROVED identical β€” what is left is a way to say ADJACENT. The upsample turned out not to be allocation at all: it folds into the convolution's weights, and that is BUILT.

Channel concat (torch.cat([h, hs.pop()], dim=1), 9 per forward). In the ConvEntry layout the activation is [C/32][plane][32], so the channel axis is the outermost. Concatenating along it is placing two buffers adjacently:

    [Ca/32][plane][32]  followed by  [Cb/32][plane][32]
    ==  [(Ca+Cb)/32][plane][32]

The concat is free if the two producers wrote into one allocation. That is a lifetime-planner requirement β€” "allocate h and the skip tensor as two halves of one span" β€” and kohakuaccel/lifetime.py already packs temps whose lives miss. It needs a way to say adjacent, which lifetime.pack(groups=) half provides. Every SDXL channel count is a multiple of 32, so no concat straddles a block.

MEASURED, and it is exact. pack(a) without its tail entries, followed by pack(b), is BYTE-IDENTICAL to pack(concat(a, b)) at all five real skip shapes β€” 32x32 1280+1280, 64x64 640+640, 128x128 320+320, 64x64 640+1280 and 8x8 32+64. The one condition is the one the sentence above states: the first buffer must be written without its tail, which is what "one span, two halves" means. A channel SLICE of the low blocks is the same fact backwards β€” the leading prefix, byte-identical at the same five shapes β€” so requirement 25 is closed on the channel axis for free. compiler/tests/test_conv2d_stride2.py.

Nearest-2x upsample (2 in the UNet, 3 in the VAE). Output pixel (2y+i, 2x+j) reads input (y, x) for all four (i,j). In ConvEntry order a pixel's 32-channel block is 64 contiguous bytes, so the upsample is a stride-0 read on two axes β€” precisely what vec_agu spells and what Buffer.repeated is. It is a 4-dimension affine walk:

    dst (c, y, i, x, j)   strides (plane_out, 2*Wout, Wout, 2, 1)
    src (c, y, _, x, _)   strides (plane_in,  Win,    0,    1, 0)

Five dimensions, which is one more than vec_agu has and one fewer than the mover's six. So: either two vector passes (duplicate along x, then along y), or one mover COPY. The mover is host-commanded and its rate is unmeasured since the rebuild (Β§6), so the two-pass vector form is what to build.

Fusing it into the following conv is better still, and it is BUILT β€” ops.conv2d_upsample2 and weights_for_upsample2. Upsample2D is always nearest2x -> Conv3x3, so output (2y+iy, 2x+ix) reads a[y + (iy+dy-1)//2][x + (ix+dx-1)//2] β€” and over dy that takes only TWO values, whichever iy is. So each of the four output residue classes is a 2x2 convolution on the ORIGINAL plane, at ordinary stride-1 tap offsets shifted by (iy, ix), with the taps that land on one input pixel ADDED together once at checkpoint load.

The tap index is (iy+dy-1)//2 + 1 - iy: the input offset runs -1..1 and the operand's runs 0..1, and the difference is exactly the class shift the kernel adds back. Off by one there reads the neighbouring pixel and still looks like a convolution, which is why the test checks that each class's folded weights sum to the whole 3x3.

MEASURED: 4 dispatches, 0 relayouts, error identical to a plain conv, and 2.15x / 2.00x fewer cycles at 16x16 and 32x32 than materialising the 2x activation and running a 3x3 over it β€” 1.08x at 8x8, where the pad ring is the layer. The 4x activation is never written. The four results ARE the residue split of the [2H][2W][N] output, which is ConvEntry(step=2) order, so a consumer that wants the interleaved plane still pays for the interleave; the next thing in a resnet is a GroupNorm, which does not care about pixel order.

Stride-2 downsample is Β§5.6.

5.9 Timestep and label embedding

get_timestep_embedding is cos/sin(t * exp(-log(10000) * arange(160)/160)). The vector ALU has exp2, log2, inv, rsqrt and no sin or cos (hw/vector.py:OPS). Three options, and the third is right:

cost
polynomial sin/cos on the lane a chain per element, plus range reduction the ALU does not help with
a 5th transcendental seed RTL, and it would be used 320 times per forward
build the 320-wide embedding on the host 320 floats per step, once, uploaded with the step

The embedding is B x 320 per step β€” 640 bytes. time_embed and label_emb themselves are ordinary Linear -> SiLU -> Linear, which is kernels.mlp with act="silu", and label_emb's 2816 -> 1280 is the widest K in the model at a trivial M.

Do not put sin/cos in this ALU for SDXL. The budget for host-side scalar work is "thousands of operations per token, not billions" (vector-core.md Β§9), and 320 sinusoids per step is four orders of magnitude inside it.

5.10 The VAE mid attention

AttnBlock(512) at 128x128 latent is Lq = Lkv = 16,384, D = 512, one head. It is the one operator in the pipeline that flash_attention does not fit, for two reasons:

  1. block == Dv is required (compiler/kohakutpu/kernels/attention.py:152), and Dv = 512 here. A 512-wide key block against a 16,384-long key axis is 32 blocks, which is fine, but the temps become span x 512, and with qblock unset span = 16,384 β€” 16 MB per temp, against 2 MB of L2 and three temps.
  2. The q/k/v/proj_out projections are 1x1 convolutions over [C][H][W], which in ConvEntry order is a GEMM (conv2d.md Β§4) β€” that part is free.

So the VAE mid attention needs qblock set, which the kernel already supports: qblock=512 gives temps of 512 x 512 = 512 KB, three of them = 1.5 MB, which fits MAG L2 with room. Cost is one extra pass per key block, which the kernel's own docstring prices.

And it needs Β§5.1, because at 32 key blocks and 32 query blocks the un-fixed relayout bill is 1024 x 6 host round trips for one operator.


6. What is missing or untested, by level

Naming the level is the point; an unlocated blocker is missing research, not a blocker.

6.1 Compiler

# gap evidence
C1 computed and never executed CLOSED for the intra-kernel list. A conversion runs on a vector core. A tensor handed BETWEEN kernels in two orders still goes through rt.Tensor.address MEASURED: the head-split path's q, k and v β€” exactly 3, and it does not grow with the key-block count
C2 isa/vecemit.entry_walk and ElementwiseKernel(drain=) implement an on-card strided relayout and are called by nothing but compiler/tests/test_layout.py SOURCE, repo-wide grep
C3 two folds, one can count CLOSED. fold_flat splits an odd count instead of halving it; every SDXL width and group size runs MEASURED, Β§5.4 and compiler/tests/test_sdxl_norms.py
C3a converts buffers the next stage overwrites CLOSED. 3*blocks - 3 of flash_attention's conversions are no longer run or charged MEASURED: 4x256 went from 21 run to 12, and cost.time from 739,258 to 507,352. compiled.conversions still LISTS 21, so it is no longer the authority β€” do not zip it against cost.relayouts
C3b Buffer.repeated serves ONE grid instance. _agree exempts a broadcast from the length rule; _span and _at still charge it part * instance MEASURED: 1,152 of 2,048 elements unwritten and success reported, Β§5.4
C4 No L2 address can be formed. machinespec.SPECIAL_BIT is dead; global_addr raises above 1<<36 SOURCE
C5 No transpose, permute or slice view in the DSL. Spread β€” a buffer read periodically, take elements of every period β€” is the only address-dependent operand it has SOURCE compiler/kohakutpu/lang/buffers.py:269
C6 A per-channel epilogue operand cannot be staged β€” linear_bias is fused-only hardware-wants.md Β§7
C6a A fused epilogue has no FORM for a full-shape operand. Its one side operand is spelled b[j] and lowered as a per-CHANNEL walk; acc_o[a, b] is a Slice, which has no arithmetic. The budget is there β€” 7 of 8 descriptors, 256 of 320 L1 words at gm=gn=8 β€” the spelling is not MEASURED: four rewrites, Β§5.2a. Worth 20.8% of a 4x256 flash call
C7 the cost model does not price a MAG round trip cost.relayouts now prices a conversion, which is how Β§5.2a was measured at all β€”
C8 Nothing bounds a model, only a call; weights are not distinguished from activations; no test at 16 GiB memory.md Β§4
C9 The L1 bank bits are written as zero, so half of a 512-entry L1 is unreachable hardware-wants.md Β§4

6.2 Hardware, built but untargeted

# thing state
H1 MAG L2 staging, 2 MB/mesh, mesh-wide, read/write, addressable by every requester in the v7 top; no software; port A tied off, so only the 256-bit path is live
H2 NoC L2 adapter, 256 KB x 10 per mesh in the v7 top; l2_en = 0 at reset; serves only its own endpoint; refuses a quantised fill and multicast
H3 the 6-D tensor descriptor walker mx_tdesc.v, conv-im2col validated not wired into the fill engine. conv2d.md Β§5: this is the enabling change for conv at full speed, ~2-3 weeks in mag_mem_port.v
H4 shared fetch (one DRAM read multicast to up to 4 units) decoded by the hardware, the driver does not set it; a follower cannot yet tell which fill an entry belongs to
H5 split-K epilogue on a vector core designed, not built
H6 FWD, chain bypass, second accumulator not built

6.3 Hardware, missing

# thing consequence for SDXL
H7 mover TRANSPOSE faults if requested the one engine with 6 affine dimensions cannot permute
H8 a compute unit cannot command the mover β€” only the control processor can, and a unit has no address that reaches it any rearrangement is orchestrated by the node's processor or by the host between programs. The processor is now part of every node, so the _pe top variant is gone: every mesh carries one
H9 a vector core cannot emit MXFP7, so VC -> cluster L1 is shut costs flash attention half its stages, and blocks linear -> act -> linear with the activation never reaching DRAM
H10 no sin/cos Β§5.9 β€” do not fix this for SDXL
H11 no element-dynamic behaviour (gather/scatter with computed indices) SDXL needs none. Recorded because it is the machine's largest single gap and the next model may

6.4 Untested β€” things this page could not settle

  1. Whether a remote staging address forwards over the interlink. SETTLED, and the answer is no. mag_ilink's AXI slave side is wired to the mover's write channel alone (src/kohakuaccel/sysnode/core/mag.v:667-671); a compute unit's request and a host access both reach M_AXI_DRAM with the full 40-bit address and land in local DRAM above 64 GB, where nothing answers. Only the mover crosses. Β§5.3's cross-mesh half therefore needs a mover pass on the sending side, not a remote address on the receiving one.
  2. The memory mover's rate. There is none to quote: the figure branch B in conv2d.md Β§6 was once decided against predates the mover rebuild and has been withdrawn. Nothing here uses a mover rate; Β§5.8 chooses the vector-core form partly for that reason.
  3. Whether the unit models are byte-faithful across an unexecuted conversion. MEASURED: mlp records a Tile -> Entry conversion, the two orders differ in 16,192 of 16,384 elements, and the kernel nonetheless returns peak-relative p50 3.7e-3 / max 2.2e-2 β€” bit-identical to the two-call form. The relayouts counter says why: the runtime performed a host round trip. That is consistent, but it has never been run on silicon, and it is the first thing to check when mlp next is.
  4. Everything on this page is simulation. No conv, no attention and no norm figure here came off the card.
  5. gn = 4 for a 64-wide head projection (Β§5.2) has not been measured against gn = 8. The intensity arithmetic says 5.3 against 8.0; whether that shows at 700-900 MAC/byte is an experiment, not a derivation.

7. What each gap costs

Effort is in the units this project has used before β€” a compiler change that touches one pass, or an RTL change with a bench.

BUILT, with what each one is and what it unlocked:

item level what it is what it unlocked
Β§5.4 split fold_flat compiler one pass in kernels/wide.py. A split at the power of two below an odd count, not a periodic tail β€” Β§5.4 proves the tail impossible all 210 LayerNorms and all 46 GroupNorms
Β§5.5 group_norm_wide kernel one kernel sharing layernorm_wide's arithmetic, plus the SiLU pair the UNet and VAE resnet normalisation
Β§5.2 head split as an N-partition kernel a RESHAPE and two kernels, at x1.00 cycles and x1.00 flits requirements 20 and 22, and 4 host permutes per attention
Β§5.1 execute conversions on the card compiler the relayout path in relayout.md the host, out of every INTRA-kernel relayout
Β§5.6 stride-2 packer compiler ConvEntry(step=) β€” the name is step, not stride, which collides with the batch byte stride the backend reads the 2 Downsample2D, against a MEASURED 4.00x
Β§5.8 upsample fused into conv kernel four 2x2 convolutions on the original plane, weights folded at load the 2 Upsample2D and the VAE's 3, at 2.0-2.15x and a quarter of the activation

LEFT, in the order the evidence now argues for:

item level effort what it unlocks
a drain that writes ROW-MAJOR, or an L1 read granule matching the 4x4 drain RTL the matmul array's output granule the whole conversion bill. It is 49-68% of a flash call and 99.6% of it is the two Tile crossings, which exist only because MG's output granule is a 4x4 sub-tile while everything else reads rows. Β§5.2b
C6a a full-shape side operand in a fused epilogue compiler + ISA a SPELLING as well as a slot; the budget is already there lets part_o fuse β€” but NOT a cycle of the transpose, since corr then crosses at the same size. Worth it for the DRAM round trip, not for the ALU. Β§5.2b
C3b Buffer.repeated past one instance compiler exempt a broadcast from the instance offset in _span, as _agree already does a BOUNDED edge mask, and a staged per-channel operand with it
Β§5.8 adjacent allocation for concat compiler lifetime.pack(groups=) the 9 skip concats, free β€” the bytes are already proved identical
Β§5.3 L2 tier in the allocator compiler + driver SPECIAL_BIT, a tier on L.temp, an arena region 2 MB per mesh that is on the card and unreachable
Β§5.7 K/V resident in L2 kernel allocation only, once Β§5.3 lands 64x fewer DRAM re-reads on a cross-attention
H3 wire mx_tdesc into the fill engine RTL ~2-3 weeks in mag_mem_port.v, per conv2d.md Β§5 conv at full speed; a 6-D operand descriptor is a general answer to much of Β§5.1
H9 quantiser on the vector-core drain path RTL a bench and a format the weights handoff, one of the three in Β§5.2a; opens linear -> act -> linear
H7 mover TRANSPOSE RTL mode 1 is allocated an alternative to Β§5.1 for bulk, host-scheduled permutes

8. The order the evidence argues for

Ordered by measured cycles, not by how much work an item appears to delete. Those two orderings disagree here: deleting host permutes is real and removes zero cycles of conversion (Β§5.2), while the item that changes the floor is the one nothing at the kernel or compiler level can reach.

  1. The drain order, in RTL. Β§5.2b: conversions are 49-68% of a flash call, 99.6% of that is the two tile <-> flat crossings, and they exist because MG's output granule is a 4x4 sub-tile while every reduction and every fill reads rows. Nothing at the kernel or compiler level reaches it β€” the compiler already keeps tile through elementwise work, and the reduction genuinely needs rows. This is the only item that changes the floor.
  2. Β§5.3, because until an L2 address can be formed, 2 MB per mesh of shipped silicon is unreachable and every staging design is untestable.
  3. Β§5.8's allocator half and C3b, both small and both blocking something already proved correct.
  4. C6a, worth it for the DRAM round trip it saves, not for the ALU β€” Β§5.2b shows it moves the crossing rather than deleting it.
  5. H3, which makes conv fast rather than merely correct.

Nothing on this list is now what keeps an SDXL layer from running at its real width β€” Β§Β§5.2, 5.4, 5.5, 5.6 and 5.8's kernel half are built and measured. What is left is what keeps it from running FAST, and four of the six items are the same thing: a conversion that should not happen, or should not land in memory.


9. Do the pieces COMPOSE?

Every gap above was closed and measured on its own. This section is the other question: assembled into the blocks SDXL actually repeats, do they still run? Each fragment is built from ops/kernels/api only, graded against a float64 reference, and priced with cost.time. Host rearrangements are counted, on the rule that a fragment which only runs by going through numpy has not run.

9.1 What runs

fragment shape p50 p99 max >1% >10% cycles conversion host moves
ResnetBlock2D 8x8, 320 -> 320 3.64e-3 1.52e-2 2.68e-2 7.7% 0% 301,568 0 10
ResnetBlock2D 8x8, 320 -> 640 3.46e-3 1.44e-2 2.65e-2 6.4% 0% 724,096 0 10
down-block: 2 resnets + Downsample2D 8x8, 320 5.17e-3 2.32e-2 3.48e-2 21.8% 0% 637,824 0 21

The group is 640 elements β€” (320/32) * 8 * 8, five sub-rows β€” which is a real SDXL group size and one of the shapes that was refused outright before Β§5.4. Nothing in the convolution path refuses, and nothing past 10% comes out. The error grows with depth exactly as composing fp16 stages should: one block 2.7e-2 at the max, three blocks 3.5e-2.

9.2 What it costs to compose: the host moves

The 21 moves of the down-block, by cause. Eight are LOAD-TIME β€” the affine put into group order depends only on the weights and the plane β€” so 13 are per call:

moves cause per call?
4 gather the groups out of [H][W][C] yes
4 scatter the groups back yes
4 the gain into group order no, once at load
4 the shift into group order no, once at load
5 pick the real raster rows out of [plane][N] yes

The gather is the finding, and it is a channel-count fact. A GroupNorm(32, C) group is C/32 channels by the whole plane; a ConvEntry channel block is 32 channels by the whole plane and is CONTIGUOUS. The two line up only when the group IS a block:

C channels a group against the 32-channel block
320 10 no
640 20 no
1280 40 no
512 (VAE) 16 divides 32
256 (VAE) 8 divides 32
128 (VAE) 4 divides 32
1024 32 the group IS a block

None of the three UNet channel counts aligns. So every norm -> conv pair β€” and a resnet is two of them β€” needs the channels gathered into group order and scattered back.

And the obvious escape does not work either. The reductions are a sum and a sum of squares, which are order-free, so where a group IS a block the norm could read the convolution's own bytes. MEASURED at 8x8x1024, and it is wrong: p50 2.84e-2, max 2.35e-1, 2.7% of elements past 10%. ConvEntry's plane is PADDED β€” 100 positions for a 8x8 image β€” so the group carries 36 halo zeros per channel, and while a sum over them is a sum over zeros, the MEAN is not: it divides by the padded count. Fixing that needs the pad excluded from the reduction and the divisor told the real count, which is a masked reduction with a valid= count β€” a kernel change, and one that would only ever help the VAE, since no UNet count reaches 32 channels a group.

9.3 What refuses

fragment state
ResnetBlock2D runs
down-block (2 resnets + downsample) runs
BasicTransformerBlock not assembled here. Its parts each run; the composed fragment has not been graded, and Β§9.2's host-move accounting is what it would have to carry

Two traps the assembly turned up, both in the caller and worth writing down:

  • kernels.geglu(x, wg, wu) gates on its FIRST weight. SDXL's h, gate = proj(x).chunk(2, dim=-1) gates on the SECOND half, so the halves go in swapped. Getting it backwards is a plausible-looking 20% wrong β€” p50 1.97e-1 with 73% of elements past 10%, which reads like a broken kernel and is not one.
  • geglu lowers the SIGMOID gelu, x * sigmoid(1.702x), while SDXL's nn.functional.gelu is the erf one. Grading against tanh reports the approximation rather than the kernel; kernels.gelu_tanh is the other one.