title: Memory attach β how a unit reaches the machine
summary: >-
The framework's memory model is an IO model, which a unit whose inner memory
system we do not own cannot implement. This is the design record for the
attach product that fixes it β a shared tagged L2 at the mesh endpoint, where
memory ranges hold lines and communication ranges never do, with the
reasoning, the three options it was chosen against, and what it does not
solve.
tags:
- integrate
- memory
- noc
Memory attach
Kind: none of the four yet. This page describes a proposal, and nothing on it is built. When it is, the block would be a customizable addon β a slot at a mesh endpoint, beside the one
noc_l2_adapteralready occupies. Read it as a design record, not as something you can attach to. What you can attach to today is Β§2 and Β§6, and those are marked.
A design record. It exists so the argument survives the discussion that produced it.
1. The problem: the framework hands out a protocol
The memory model that ships is an IO model. A unit is handed a protocol and
implements it: build MEM_RD_REQ / MEM_WR_REQ descriptors, allocate
transaction tags, match responses back to them, respect one outstanding write,
honour credits.
src/kohakuaccel/pe/rv32/noc/rv_noc_req.v is a few hundred lines of exactly
that, and its header states the job plainly:
"everything about the framework memory protocol that RV32 software must never see."
That file is a success. Software above it issues lw and sw. But the
hiding happens inside a unit we wrote, which means every new unit either
copies it or writes it again β and a unit we did not write cannot do either.
1.1 The difference that decides everything: who owns the protocol
| IO model | memory model | |
|---|---|---|
| what the unit does | builds descriptors, tracks tags, matches responses, counts credits | issues a load or a store |
| what memory is | a device it drives | a space it inhabits |
| who implements the protocol | every unit author, once each | the framework, once |
| can a foreign unit join? | no | yes |
The last row is not a matter of degree. A mature core emits AXI reads and a line
fill. It will never emit a MEM_RD_REQ flit, and it cannot be taught to without
owning its RTL β which, if we owned it, would make it not a foreign core.
So this is an integration-reach question, not a performance question. It is the difference between shipping an accelerator and shipping an accelerator framework.
2. What already works β so the gap is not overstated
It is easy to overstate this gap, and the first draft of this document did. The following all work today and none of them need the attach product.
The station bus already carries the whole card address space. An AXI master
reaches every mesh's S_AXI_MEM and every mesh's S_AXI_CTRL through the
segment map (sb_nmu's per-segment base/mask/translate decode). Other meshes'
memory and other meshes' control registers are both addressable now. The
"unified memory, the CPU sees all of DRAM including the other meshes" case is a
map choice, and the mechanism for it exists.
An AXI master can already dispatch compute units. Not by any special path β
by exactly the route the host uses: write the program into the orchestrator's
staging RAM, set PROG_*, kick. Anything that reaches S_AXI_CTRL can drive
units. A foreign core is not locked out of using the machine.
Data already crosses meshes. The mover pushes over the interlink, CU_DATA
carries a peer drain, and matmul and vector results reach other meshes today.
Cross-mesh is a shipping capability, not a hole.
Explicit L2 exists in two forms, both selectable, both in ship tops.
mag_stage behind mag_stage_port in the system node, and noc_l2_adapter at a
mesh endpoint β chosen per endpoint by gen_mesh.py --l2-mag / --l2-cu / --l2-vec. Their sizes follow from their parameters rather than from a
measurement: the endpoint adapter's default DEPTH is 8192 lines of DATA_W,
and the agent's staging store is STAGE_BANKS Γ STAGE_ENTRIES entries of
4 Γ DATA_W, 2 MiB at the defaults
(spec/parameters.md Β§5).
3. The gap, stated exactly
Given all of Β§2, what is actually missing is one thing:
Nothing turns a miss into a flit on behalf of a client whose inner memory system we do not own.
The consequence is precise. A mature core or unit can be a host β an AXI master that drives the machine by hand-building dispatches and register writes. It cannot be a peer that reaches the machine as address space, because reaching a compute unit or a staging aperture as memory requires speaking the flit protocol, and speaking the flit protocol requires being a unit we wrote.
4. Which tier the product lives at, and why not L1
This is where the first version of this document was wrong, and the error is worth recording because it is easy to repeat.
rv_l1 + rv_noc_req is a tagged cache whose miss becomes a flit. It works, it
is exercised by the rv_front bench, and it is the exact mechanism this document
wants. It is not a product, because:
A unit's innermost cache is not ours to design. A mature core or unit has its own L1, its own fill logic and often its own MMU. What it exposes is an external memory face; nothing behind that face can be changed.
An L1 attach only works where we own the L1 β which makes it an implementation detail of our core, not something a third party can adopt. The attach product has to sit below whatever the client already has, which is the L2 tier.
4.1 The system node needs no extra layer; a mesh node does
SYSTEM NODE β our control processor
pipeline -> L1 (ours) -> requester -> MAG converged path -> stage / DRAM
no extra tier: it already sits INSIDE the memory system, beside
mag_stage_port and mag_dram_port
MESH NODE β any unit, ours or foreign
[ its own L1 / MMU -- not ours, not changeable ]
-> TAGGED L2 <- THE PRODUCT, MISSING
-> flits -> MAG -> stage / DRAM
The asymmetry is real and it is the reason the framework needs a block at all. A processor inside the system node reaches memory by being next to it. A unit at a mesh port reaches memory only through the fabric, and something has to hold lines and translate.
5. Two address classes, and only one is tagged
This is what "everything is memory" means concretely: not that everything is cached, but that everything is addressed.
| class | examples | behaviour |
|---|---|---|
| memory | DRAM, L2 staging | cacheable β tag check, line fill, eviction |
| communication | a CU's instruction window, a peer's buffer, a doorbell, a control register | never tagged. Always miss. Every access becomes a packet |
A store into a communication range is a flit. A load from one is a request and its response. No line is ever allocated, so there is nothing to flush, nothing to evict, and no coherence question for that half of the map.
That is what lets a client dispatch work, push data to a peer and ring a doorbell with nothing but loads and stores, while its working set still gets lines.
5.1 Blocking, and what real CPUs do about it
The obvious worry is that a communication access is a NoC round trip, so "everything is memory" makes the client stall.
Every mainstream ISA already draws this line, through memory attributes per
region β ARM Device vs Normal (with the nGnRnE / nGnRE / nGRE / GRE grading
of Gathering, Reordering and Early-acknowledgement), x86 UC and WC against
WB via MTRR/PAT, RISC-V PMAs separating I/O from main memory. The split in the
table above is the same split, which is a good sign for it.
But the property that matters here is not blocking β it is non-speculation. Device-typed regions are never speculatively accessed, and that is a correctness requirement rather than a tuning one: a speculatively issued load into a doorbell range rings the doorbell. A packet that should never have existed is a bug no amount of latency tolerance repairs.
Blocking itself is probably tolerable, for two reasons that should be checked rather than assumed:
- a communication load is a request/response round trip, DRAM-latency-shaped, not obviously worse than the cache miss the client already copes with;
- a communication store can be posted β
MEM_WR_REQneeds no response for correctness, which is why the mover's writes are posted today.
The integration consequence is the actionable part: the range map must be visible to the client, so its page tables or PMA can mark communication ranges Device / non-cacheable / non-speculative. A client that cannot be told which ranges are which will speculate into them. If an attach cannot express that, it should be said at integration time rather than discovered as a phantom packet.
6. The three ways to attach, and why only one is a design problem
| what it is | design problem? | |
|---|---|---|
| 1. AXI master β station bus | ships today | No. The address map is the integrator's choice, not ours |
| 2. AXI master β NoC bridge | AXI slave in, flits out, stateless | No. Wiring and logic. Many variants, needs-driven |
| 3. Tagged L2 β NoC | holds lines, translates misses | Yes. This is the product |
On (1). The map belongs to whoever builds the machine. What is framework work is the contract and its checker, and this is the part of the page that applies to something you can attach to today.
The station bus is the AXI fabric that carries host traffic across the card. A
manager (sb_nmu) is where an AXI master joins it; a subordinate
(sb_nsu) is where a slave hangs off it. Between them everything travels as
flits, and the four rules below are what a foreign master has to live inside.
Breaking any of them fails silently.
The fabric carries no LOCK, no CACHE, no PROT and no timeout. No master
in the framework drives them, nothing on the path carries them, and a master that
depends on any of them for correctness is depending on something that does not
exist. A miss that never returns hangs the client; there is nothing to time it
out.
Bursts are INCR only, and bounded by MAX_BURST. A WRAP or FIXED burst
is not rejected β it is carried as INCR, which is a plausible wrong answer
rather than an error.
A read reserves its whole response before it injects, and the reservation is
counted in FLITS, not in AXI beats. A master wider than the fabric flit returns
MW / FW flits per beat, so a burst of n beats needs n Γ MW / FW flits of
response room β not n. sb_nmu computes that floor itself and clamps
RSP_DEPTH up to it, so the parameter cannot be under-sized from outside. What
you still owe it is a truthful MAX_BURST: the floor is
MAX_BURST Γ MW / FW, so a master that declares single-beat and then issues a
burst has under-reserved by however much it lied.
The failure mode is what makes this worth stating. An under-reserved read does not overflow. The reservation simply never succeeds, the address handshake never fires, and that port hangs forever with no error raised anywhere on the path. Any credit or reservation scheme that counts in the transport's unit must have its buffer sized in that unit too β and where a width ratio sits between the two, write the depth as a function of the ratio rather than documenting the rule and hoping.
REQ_DEPTH is the one an integrator must size by hand. The asymmetry is the
whole point and it is easy to miss:
| Floors itself? | So it is | |
|---|---|---|
RSP_DEPTH |
Yes β sb_nmu silently raises it to (burst limit Γ split factor) |
a tuning preference. You cannot get it wrong from outside |
REQ_DEPTH |
No β taken as given, subject only to the vendor FIFO's depth-16 minimum | an obligation. Get it wrong and the station wedges |
The rule is REQ_DEPTH >= max AxLEN + 1 β a packet longer than the request
FIFO wedges the station, and reports it only as a stall.
This is not theoretical. It has already happened on silicon: sb_line4.v
records that 16-deep FIFOs "wedged every burst over 16 beats on v6.5
hardware", which is why its 64-bit JTAG manager is not left at a shallow depth.
The obligation is a pairing, not a number
Two legal ways to size a request queue, and one combination that wedges:
Declare MAX_BURST? |
Depth | Verdict |
|---|---|---|
| Yes, the real limit | as shallow as that limit | Correct. A single-beat port at depth 16 is right because the bound is a protocol guarantee, not a hope about software |
No (0 = unbounded) |
the width's 4 KB bound | Correct. You have promised nothing, so you must cover everything legal |
| No | shallow anyway | This is the wedge. Nothing declares the limit and nothing covers it |
The unbounded case is width-derived, and 256 is rarely the answer. AXI4's
4 KB boundary rule caps a burst at 4096 / (MW/8) beats, so a wide port can
legally issue fewer beats than a narrow one. sb_root9 sizes its bulk request
queue at 64 and says why: a 512-bit port cannot legally exceed 64 beats, so
"a deeper queue is sized for a burst that cannot legally arrive." The general
bound is min(256, 4096 / (MW / 8)).
The two shipping topologies differ, and both are defensible: sb_line4 gives its
bulk managers 256 β generous, covering the narrowest port it might carry β while
sb_root9 derives 64 from its actual port width. Deriving is the better habit;
being generous is the safer default if you are unsure.
The response side is where flits-not-beats bites, and sb_root9 has the
worked instance: its bulk response depth is (FW < 512) ? 128 : 64, because "a
512-bit manager on a 256-bit fabric returns two per beat" β 64 beats becomes 128
flits. You do not have to compute that one; sb_nmu floors RSP_DEPTH itself.
You do have to compute the request side.
sb_nmu's own defaults are REQ_DEPTH = 512, RSP_DEPTH = 256.
The RTL records the cost of sizing up, and it is close to free: no extra BRAM at all, because a RAMB36 row is 512 deep β a shallow queue was already paying for rows it never used β against a double-digit LUT delta. (Attribution: a comment in
sb_line4.v, which states +71 LUT atMW = 64and +88 atMW = 512. It is not a report in this tree, and it names no part, tool or mode.)
A last floor worth knowing about, since it turns a sizing mistake into a build failure rather than a hang: the underlying FIFO primitive refuses a depth below 16, and it does so by ending the simulation at time zero rather than warning. A Lite port asking for 4 gets that, not a small FIFO.
tests/axi/sb_axi_check.v already exists and belongs in the integration
deliverable rather than in the test tree alone. The station bus itself is
projects/kohakuaxi/station-bus.md.
On (2). A bridge with no tags, no lines, no flush and no coherence. It is the right answer for a client that already has its own cache hierarchy β putting our tagged L2 under a core that has an L2 means two tag arrays in series and a coherence question nobody needed. It is also the fill path of (3), which is the useful structural fact: (3) is (2) plus a tag array, not a separate project.
7. The product
7.1 Slave faces β configurable, because one shape does not fit
(a) AXI4 slave. The widest door. MicroBlaze V and classic MicroBlaze, VexRiscv and NaxRiscv, Rocket, CVA6, and mature third-party units all attach with no changes to themselves.
(b) Native port. The port to merge into, not bridge to β the same
relationship noc_cu_base already has with a compute unit: instantiate it inside
your unit and speak its handshake directly.
The framework's own PEs use (b). Giving a SIMD or SIMT PE an AXI interface would be pure waste β it has no use for burst types, transaction IDs or response ordering, and every one of those is area spent re-describing a handshake it already has. A GPU-class PE is genuinely different from a tensor unit here: its accesses are gathers and indexed reads decided at run time, so it wants tags where a matmul wants explicit staging.
7.2 Multi-master
The number of slave ports is a parameter.
Modern CPU and accelerator designs share one L2 across several units. A shared L2 with a configurable port count is the difference between a one-off attach and a general block β and it is also where the cost argument turns favourable (Β§9).
7.3 Master face
Flits, through noc_cu_base. 32-byte lines: the mover's word, the flit
payload and MAG's internal beat are all 32 bytes, and any other line size
fragments the machine at one of those boundaries.
7.4 Where it sits, and why not the router
At a mesh endpoint β the slot noc_l2_adapter already occupies, with proven
port contract, placement and URAM budget.
Not in the router. Caching inside the router is the one option in the cache round flagged as high risk and the only one that can deadlock, because it makes routing depend on tag state. At the endpoint, routing is untouched and the deadlock argument for XY routing is unaffected.
8. It coexists with the explicit adapter
noc_l2_adapter (explicit, address-placed) and this block can both be present in
one machine, and even at one endpoint. Which a given endpoint uses is a design
choice for whoever builds the machine, not a framework decision.
They are right for different clients, and the existing conclusion in
docs/notes/cache/README.md β prefer explicit staging β remains correct within
its scope:
| client | addresses known | fits |
|---|---|---|
| matmul, vector | compile time: the sweep walks addresses the compiler computed | explicit staging |
| CPU-class PE, GPU/SIMT, foreign core | run time | tagged |
A cache in front of a GEMM sweep spends tags rediscovering what was written down. A GPU's gathers are the opposite case. This machine has both, so it wants both mechanisms, selected per endpoint exactly as the staging options already are.
9. Cost is a net, not a charge
The block costs a tag array, line storage and its own control.
It also removes, from every unit behind it: flit construction, the
transaction tag table, response matching, write-ordering state and credit
accounting β everything rv_noc_req does, paid once per L2 instead of once per
unit.
That is why Β§7.2 matters to the arithmetic and not only to the flexibility: with
N masters behind one L2, the per-unit saving is multiplied and the tag array is
not.
Unmeasured. No out-of-context run exists and nothing here is a figure. But the sign is not obviously a cost, and an evaluation that counts only the tag array is counting one side of it.
10. Coherence: none, and say so
Single writer per line, software ordering, explicit flush β the contract rv_l1
already has.
State it and enforce it rather than leaving it undefined. An undefined coherence model produces exactly the failure this project keeps meeting: a plausible wrong answer with no exception raised.
11. What this does not solve
- Liveness. A miss on a congested fabric stalls the client; a miss that never returns hangs it. The fabric carries no timeout. A timeout-to-fault path is a prerequisite, and it is the hardest problem in this document.
- It does not make a foreign core coherent with anything, and does not try.
- It does not replace the station bus. A client that only wants DRAM and control registers should keep using it β that path is simpler and it works.
- It is not a performance argument. If the reason for wanting it is bandwidth, the explicit staging that already ships is the better answer.
12. Relationship to the rest of the machine
The system node's control processor needs none of this, whichever one it is.
It sits inside the memory system already, beside mag_stage_port and
mag_dram_port rather than out at a mesh port, so DRAM and staging are both
simply addresses to it. The RV32 complex names the 40-bit space through a segment
file; the RV64 complex has Sv39 translation and an L1 of its own, and reaches
memory through a single node port. Neither needs a block between it and the
fabric, because neither is behind the fabric. That is
arch/sysnode/control-processor.md and
arch/cpu/rv64-sys/memory-system.md.
What this generalises is the attach, not the core. The same tag array with a different fill backend serves a unit at a mesh port, a foreign core with an AXI master, or several units sharing one L2. The mechanism is proven one tier down; what is missing is lifting it out and making the backend a parameter.
And it is what makes CU control uniform with memory. If CU_INST and
CU_SIGNAL become communication ranges (Β§5) rather than dedicated ports, then a
unit dispatches by storing and collects completions by loading, and there is no
part of the machine a client reaches by a side channel.
13. Open
- Fill target β DRAM, or the explicit staging that already exists. Staging is the more interesting answer and needs the aperture decode.
- Arbitration across slave ports, once there is more than one.
- Ordering between the two classes. A communication store that must not overtake the memory writes it announces is the doorbell problem again β and the interlink already solves its version, by holding an inbound doorbell until every write ahead of it has its response.
- Whether the native port and the AXI port are one block with two faces, or a native block with an AXI shim in front. The shim is cleaner; the cost is a handshake hop.
- Cost, which needs one out-of-context run before any number is quoted.